The Power of Three
Sep. 22nd, 2012 04:05 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png){kind=small}
ladymercury_10I don't have much coherent to say, but basically I LOVED EVERYTHING. It was lovely and funny and bittersweet and dear in all the ways it ought to have been, and it made me feel simultaneously quite sad and strangely reassured about next week. When the Doctor tells Amy that she always gets what she wants, I think that might be the show's way of telling us that she and Rory will be more than all right. And when the victims of cardiac arrest--Eleventy included--recover and start to walk again, I think it might be the writers saying that the Doctor will have his heart broken, but that he, and we, will be okay eventually as well. They've said similar things in interviews about the new companion, if memory serves. But dear goodness, Ponds, will I miss you.
And now, for bullet points of squee:
-KATE, ILU AND YOUR RAVENS OF DEATH
-AMY AND THE DOCTOR GOING "THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS"
-Amy and the Doctor's heartbreaking/lovely talk by the water
-Rory and Amy acting properly happy together again
-Rory and Amy being adorably domestic (esp. in their adorable pajamas)
-BRIAAAAAN
-Eleventy, why can't you sit still? Bless.
-The Doctor's anniversary present gone predictably wrong
-Brian Cox is on Doctor Who, oh dear goodness! My inner science fangirl is v. pleased.
Question: Why does the Doctor make that face at Amy when she tells Rory she left his scrubs in the lounge? Is it meant to be an innuendo thing, like, eww, I just realized they were having sex in their living room last night, and if so, why would Rory put on the same clothes again to go to work IN A HOSPITAL? Is that really sanitary?
Also question: Is the Henry VIII thing timey-wimeyness? Because last week the Doctor def said something to Rory about leaving his phone charger in Henry VIII's en suite.
Slightly spoilery question: Eleventy, if Amy and Rory get Weeping Angeled next week, as many have speculated, how will you ever tell poor Brian? Or Tabetha and Augustus, for that matter? D:
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Date: 2012-09-22 09:36 pm (UTC)I'm really worried about that. I can see the Doctor going back and telling Brian what had happened and that the Ponds are fine, but it would be so sad. Be OK, Ponds!
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Date: 2012-09-22 09:39 pm (UTC)P.S. I love your icon. :)
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Date: 2012-09-22 09:57 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2012-09-22 10:08 pm (UTC)I took the face to be just because of the domesticity; Rory asking his wife where his clothes are, and her knowing and telling him in a long-habituated-to-answering-these-questions sort of way.
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Date: 2012-09-22 10:17 pm (UTC)Ah, maybe! I guess I tend to assume that if I don't understand something, it's probably an innuendo, since being a sheltered child made that true for much of high school, and then college taught me that EVERYTHING is an innuendo. :P
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Date: 2012-09-25 01:15 am (UTC)Actually, I think that involved some rather crude toilet humor. Chaucer--what can you do?
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Date: 2012-09-25 01:32 am (UTC)One of my favorites was the time I took a nonfiction writing workshop and my professor was trying to explain that she wanted me to put more personal details in my essay (which was about being a student in the math department), and she went off on this tangent like "I don't want to be the stereotypical creative writing professor and say 'Where's the erotic element?' and I'm not saying 'Have you had sex with a theorem?'...."
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Date: 2012-09-22 10:37 pm (UTC)Also, I predictably loved it to bits.
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Date: 2012-09-22 10:45 pm (UTC)I was just thinking that you would! Did you think Kate was the awesomest? :)
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Date: 2012-09-23 11:54 am (UTC)AND CAN WE KEEP KATE FOREVER? I would be v happy to see her as a recurring character.
Additionally, the first question: maybe he took off his scrubs ~before, and well humans with their kissing are sort of gross so... :D
I AM INORDINATELY INTERESTED IN THE EXTENDED POND FAMILY DYNAMICS! Like, what do Mr and Mrs Pond Sr think of all these shenanigans? Did Amy tell her mom and dad she and Rory were about to split? Did she tell them why they got a new house/car? Why that dude who was Rory's stripper actually turned up at her wedding???? (HA!) What about disappearing every few months etc? I JUST WANNA KNOW IT ALLLLLL. (And Eleven's presence at that Christmas dinner too!)
(And here I was wondering how he'd ever tell Amy and Rory about River's death. Goshhhhhh.)
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Date: 2012-09-23 02:16 pm (UTC)I have heard rumors that the BBC have hinted she may be a recurring character, so maybe we will see her again!
But even so, is recycling the same clothes from yesterday, even if you took them off and folded them neatly, a thing that you can do if you work in a hospital? It seems like it shouldn't be, but maybe it is. Clearly I am thinking about this too much....
I have no idea how they explain anything, yeah, it must be nuts. Amy's whole family seemed remarkably tolerant of the Doctor when he MATERIALIZED HIS TIMESHIP IN THE MIDDLE OF HER WEDDING though, so who knows. Maybe as a family they are all quite imaginative.
Maybe Amy and Rory never actually have to know. Like, as long as there is still a River around to pop in to see them during their lifetimes, she is for all intents and purposes "still alive," so. And River doesn't really know, although she has vague notions that such a day might be coming, so it's only the Doctor carrying that sadness. :/
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Date: 2012-09-23 01:17 pm (UTC)I really do think the Ponds will get their happy ending, in some manner. As we've learnt, Amy isn't an ordinary girl. (Their families, though! *sadface*)
Timey-wimeyness seems to be a popular theory: spoilers!
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Date: 2012-09-23 06:47 pm (UTC)YES. YESYESYES. This was what I've been bouncing around since I watched it. It's a "Let's be reaffirmed that the Doctor omgloves the Ponds and the Ponds omglove the Doctor and that both have a choice in all of these matters and that everyone's happy and next week will TOTALLY be okay, kay?"
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Date: 2012-09-24 01:06 am (UTC)But I'm with you on all the squee from this latest episode!!!! =D It was just so good to see so much happy!Ponds and to see how much they love the Doctor and how much he really loves them. <3 ALL THE LOVE!
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Date: 2012-09-24 01:17 am (UTC)But yes, indeed all the love! I really liked that Amy and Rory are finally learning to talk and be nice to each other and act loving when they are not in imminent danger! And all of their moments with the Doctor were so sweet! Even when Rory kissed him, it didn't feel like the writers teasing the fans or something, it felt very genuine. I think it is good they left us this as a last happy Team TARDIS episode, even if it might make next week hurt a bit more.
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Date: 2012-09-24 01:41 am (UTC)1. OH GOD THE WEEPING ANGELS. I am now so worried after being made to feel slightly less worried because of this episode (for all the reasons you mentioned). This had better not end up like Blink where nearly everyone who was awesome ended up back in time.
2. The Ponds are so wonderfully domestic. They are one of those couples who are even more interesting now that they're married. Which is rare in television. I would watch an entire episode of Rory doing the grocery shopping, that's how much I love them.
3. Brian is not a development I expected ever but I LOVE HIM.
4. I am so pleased they found a way to work in football for Matt. Again.
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Date: 2012-09-24 01:52 am (UTC)Yeah, but remember Cathy Nightingale? She got Weeping Angeled, and she had a happy life in the past.
I would watch Rory go grocery shopping, totally. I would watch them do just about anything. I think the really nice thing about seeing them be domestic, while also seeing them after they've done some growing up, is that now they are good together in more ways than they were before. Like, they could never just have conversations, or say nice things to each other for no reason before--they always had to be on the verge of death before they'd treat each other properly. And now they can, and it makes me really happy.
Brian is fantastic, isn't he?
Hahaha it's now becoming linear time = Matt plays football. Well, I guess that didn't happen in "Closing Time." Or did it?
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Date: 2012-09-24 03:41 am (UTC)Yes, exactly! It's so wonderful to see them actually able to be happy together without life-or-death situations. It's great to see them work. I feel like there's still that spunk that was around in Series 5, but it's transformed into something that fits a couple instead of two individuals. And it's not boring in the least, which is so amazing to see because as I said, that usually doesn't work out well on television. I wish it did, but it doesn't.
Brian is truly spectacular. He's kinda like Wilfred in that he snuck up on me and now I'm super attached to him.
And the great thing is that it completely works that the Doctor would be playing football if he were to be stuck in an extended length of linear time. Because he's just that bouncy. I suspect that, even though we didn't see it, he had a match of football with Craig off-camera just for old times' sake.
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Date: 2012-09-24 04:09 am (UTC)It's really nice that we got to see them grow up before they left, because they aren't the same anymore, but you can definitely see that they have grown out of the people they were. And yeah, it works strangely well to see them do "boring" things like wonder where their dirty laundry is or drink tea in the garden. I mean, I think a lot of people wanted to see their lives after everything having been at such a break-neck pace for so long, but it should have been stupidly easy to screw up. I guess the Doctor was there to balance it out, too. You can't go wrong with the plot of "The Lodger." I will watch that episode as many times as they want to redo it.
Now that you said that, though, I can't stop thinking about Rory going grocery shopping. I really want to see that now, and I don't even know why. In my head Amy is there also and they are having adorable silly arguments over the shopping list, complete with pulling faces at each other in public and kissing to make up in the cereal aisle.
Brian is quite Wilf-esque. The really cool thing about him is that you can't really pinpoint anything *special* per se--he's pretty much your average old dad. But he's a good person and very caring and willing to put in the time to make any situation work, ridiculous or normal, and those are the sorts of things that make someone wonderful in ordinary ways, and it's always nice when Doctor Who celebrates that.
It is now my head-canon that at some off-screen time during the episode the Doctor was playing football with Craig and Sophie and Stormageddon/Alfie, who must be in primary school by now, dear goodness do they grow up fast on TV. Perhaps when he ran off traumatized by linear time and patience being for wimps?
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Date: 2012-09-25 01:12 am (UTC)I'm actually looking forward to the next episode? Just because I think, no matter how sad it is, that one thing Moff does do exceptionally well is to give good closure. I mean, the Library episodes are just the most beautiful hurt. And closure has been something sorely lacking on the show of late. Plus, I've gone back and have been watching the beginning of season five again, and it is stunning how long ago it seems. Even before season seven started I could watch those episodes and it was all very lovely and nostalgic, but it did have an immediacy to it, like you were going back? But now it's not like going back; it's like watching a memory. There's this wistful understanding that those days are gone. Amy and Rory really have been on a whole journey, and I think in gross, I'm really happy with it.
Also, getting more Kate Stewart just might do something to ease the hurt ; )
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Date: 2012-09-25 01:21 am (UTC)I think it does feel really far away now. Because in S6, it was just last year for them, and now it's been, like, ten. And even though it hasn't been as long for us, Amy and Rory feel much more grown up now, and so I guess because I believe that they can't go back, or that maybe they'd even want to, now seems like an okay time to move on, even though I'd be happy to keep them as long as the show wanted them around. And it's weird, because I cried during "The God Complex," but I wouldn't have missed them as much if they'd really gone then than I will now, even though it's only really been another half a season.
And yeah, I think you might be right about the closure, too, although it's been a long time since I watched the library two-parter. If Rory and Amy are happy with wherever they end up (and I think they may have all but told us where that'll be) and they are together at the end, I'll still be bawling, but I think it might just be okay. And maybe even more than okay.
And yes, more Kate certainly couldn't hurt. :P
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Date: 2012-09-27 03:34 am (UTC)and if you do in fact have ravens and have just two named Huginn and Muninn then you just became that much more awesomeI think we were supposed to take the scrubs line in lieu a sense of domesticity, but I mean, it could've just as well meant that they did have sex in the living room since I'd imagine that the scrubs themselves would've come off prior to the actual act, therein making them more or less clean. Plus, in all the clean room environment that I've had to work in, we'd always keep at least a second or third change of coats around, in case one had to be cleaned, so I'd imagine he would've had something similar
plus in terms of technical sanitation hospitals in a larger sense are horribly dirtyI had taken the phone charger as a means to indicate that ATCM happened within the frame of PoT- that is, since PoT occurred over a larger time frame than we've previously seen (over a year, as opposed to a day), they decided to include it as a means to indicate the passage of time? A lot of people have been saying that it's a sign that the episodes are out of order, but I've yet to actually see a convincing enough argument for it.
I don't know how Eleven would actually tell Brian, since I imagine Brian would ask to see them? But that also raises a question of why Eleven wouldn't be able to just go and find them again? But I mean, he got around telling Brian his son's been erased from time/drowned/shot/aged to death/etc, so...
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Date: 2012-09-27 03:45 am (UTC)Apparently there is also a theory that the Doctor has not been doing the episodes in the same order as the Ponds, and we are seeing them from the Ponds' POV. Therefore, last week for us is next week for the Doctor, and that explains the phone charger thing? If that makes sense. And that also explains a lot of the moments where he is randomly very sad all of a sudden. If you look up the page somewhere, I believe
I guess we will find out on Saturday? Oh man, that's in a couple days. ;_;